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	<title>Comments on: Should We Hold #SQLPASS in Seattle?</title>
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		<title>By: Karen Lopez</title>
		<link>http://www.brentozar.com/archive/2010/01/should-we-hold-sqlpass-in-seattle/comment-page-1/#comment-16750</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to pay $239 for La Quinta (the W was more than $330) one time and the next time I paid $179.  I always take the train (I hate taking long taxi rides).  It&#039;s faster to take the train than a taxi during rush hours, too.

In NYC I hoof it or take the subway.  I rarely take taxis there, either, because they take longer than the train.  Granted I stayed at the Pod Hotel in NYC, but it was only $139 a night. And the taxes were much lower.

I really hate conferences that are located out in the burbs where there is limited restaurant access and taxis or rental cars are required. Attended a conf once that was supposed to be in Philly, when actually it was a 1.5 hour cab ride west of Philly.  There were ~500 people at the event and only two restaurants within walking access/distance.  One was an Indian place that turned out to be fabulous. But the wait in line for the other place was hours long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to pay $239 for La Quinta (the W was more than $330) one time and the next time I paid $179.  I always take the train (I hate taking long taxi rides).  It&#8217;s faster to take the train than a taxi during rush hours, too.</p>
<p>In NYC I hoof it or take the subway.  I rarely take taxis there, either, because they take longer than the train.  Granted I stayed at the Pod Hotel in NYC, but it was only $139 a night. And the taxes were much lower.</p>
<p>I really hate conferences that are located out in the burbs where there is limited restaurant access and taxis or rental cars are required. Attended a conf once that was supposed to be in Philly, when actually it was a 1.5 hour cab ride west of Philly.  There were ~500 people at the event and only two restaurants within walking access/distance.  One was an Indian place that turned out to be fabulous. But the wait in line for the other place was hours long.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent Ozar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent Ozar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting about the Chicago hotel rates.  How much did you spend, if you don&#039;t mind me asking?  I haven&#039;t been able to stay in Seattle for a conference for under around $170/night plus taxes.  Manhattan is a lot more affordable than people think, though, especially if you count how much you save on taxis if you stay downtown.

I agree about the public transit.  Chicago&#039;s is fantastic - you can take public transit from either airport (O&#039;Hare or Midway) and be downtown in an hour for something like $3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting about the Chicago hotel rates.  How much did you spend, if you don&#8217;t mind me asking?  I haven&#8217;t been able to stay in Seattle for a conference for under around $170/night plus taxes.  Manhattan is a lot more affordable than people think, though, especially if you count how much you save on taxis if you stay downtown.</p>
<p>I agree about the public transit.  Chicago&#8217;s is fantastic &#8211; you can take public transit from either airport (O&#8217;Hare or Midway) and be downtown in an hour for something like $3.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Lopez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad I&#039;m not the only one who felt the survey was trying to &quot;sell&quot; Seattle as the only real location since there could be lots of MS folks attending.  I found it a bit ironic that it seemed to say that MS won&#039;t be sending many people unless they don&#039;t have to pay travel.  How do you sell the value of a conference if the conference&#039;s main sponsor seems to think it isn&#039;t valuable enough to invest in lots and lots of travel?

And as someone who has traveled to downtown twice in the last few weeks, I think you are sniffing bacon to say that it is relatively inexpensive.  Isn&#039;t it odd that my Manhattan hotel room was cheaper than my Chicago one?  $48 a night just in hotel taxes?  

I did Gila&#039;s comment that it doesn&#039;t really matter where it is as long as there is great public transit and affordable hotels.  With the wildly unpredictable air fare system these days, it can be grossly more expensive for a one hour flight than a 5 hour won.  Closeness is only a small factor in travel costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad I&#8217;m not the only one who felt the survey was trying to &#8220;sell&#8221; Seattle as the only real location since there could be lots of MS folks attending.  I found it a bit ironic that it seemed to say that MS won&#8217;t be sending many people unless they don&#8217;t have to pay travel.  How do you sell the value of a conference if the conference&#8217;s main sponsor seems to think it isn&#8217;t valuable enough to invest in lots and lots of travel?</p>
<p>And as someone who has traveled to downtown twice in the last few weeks, I think you are sniffing bacon to say that it is relatively inexpensive.  Isn&#8217;t it odd that my Manhattan hotel room was cheaper than my Chicago one?  $48 a night just in hotel taxes?  </p>
<p>I did Gila&#8217;s comment that it doesn&#8217;t really matter where it is as long as there is great public transit and affordable hotels.  With the wildly unpredictable air fare system these days, it can be grossly more expensive for a one hour flight than a 5 hour won.  Closeness is only a small factor in travel costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with the Microsoft connection being over valued in this case.  I&#039;ve been to the last 5 SQL PASS conferences (two of which in Seattle, the others in Orlando, Dallas, and Denver) and from my experience, all that the Seattle MSFT connection provided was more brown/blue shirts.  It is certainly obvious that more MSFTies attend when in Seattle, but I haven&#039;t heard that the increase in attendance necessarily provides a ton of value.

I love Seattle as a conference destination, but that is more due to the city than the proximity to Redmond.  There are plenty of other appealing locations that would be a lot easier for attendee&#039;s to travel to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with the Microsoft connection being over valued in this case.  I&#8217;ve been to the last 5 SQL PASS conferences (two of which in Seattle, the others in Orlando, Dallas, and Denver) and from my experience, all that the Seattle MSFT connection provided was more brown/blue shirts.  It is certainly obvious that more MSFTies attend when in Seattle, but I haven&#8217;t heard that the increase in attendance necessarily provides a ton of value.</p>
<p>I love Seattle as a conference destination, but that is more due to the city than the proximity to Redmond.  There are plenty of other appealing locations that would be a lot easier for attendee&#8217;s to travel to.</p>
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