Comments on: SQL 2008 upgrade & tuning for StackOverflow.com http://www.brentozar.com/archive/2008/10/sql-2008-upgrade-tuning-for-stackoverflowcom/ Your technology pain-relief experts. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:37:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Added a Second Server - Blog - Stack Overflow http://www.brentozar.com/archive/2008/10/sql-2008-upgrade-tuning-for-stackoverflowcom/comment-page-1/#comment-6089 Added a Second Server - Blog - Stack Overflow Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:21:26 +0000 http://www.brentozar.com/?p=1512#comment-6089 [...] only helped us tune the database, but also contributed a huge chunk of his own time. Brent wrote a blog post about his experience working with the Stack Overflow databases, if you’re curious. Brent works for Toad Software and he is, without a doubt, a database [...] [...] only helped us tune the database, but also contributed a huge chunk of his own time. Brent wrote a blog post about his experience working with the Stack Overflow databases, if you’re curious. Brent works for Toad Software and he is, without a doubt, a database [...]

]]> By: David Stein http://www.brentozar.com/archive/2008/10/sql-2008-upgrade-tuning-for-stackoverflowcom/comment-page-1/#comment-6064 David Stein Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:34:53 +0000 http://www.brentozar.com/?p=1512#comment-6064 I don't consider it a crutch. I write my queries to the best of my ability and then use the Tuning Tool. Often there is no improvement to be had, but sometimes the program will point out something I missed and it is a learning experience for me. The value of a tool is in how you use it. Anybody who's read Coding Horror knows that he is definitely in favor of developers having all the necessary tools to perform optimally. After all, he wouldn't advocate his guys program in Notepad, just because it's techically possible. Using the crutchless idea they wouldn't be using TOAD at all. If they were really "hard core" they'd just use the built in SQL tools which we all know leave a lot to be desired. I understand your point though Brent about not wanting to sound spammy, after all he is Jeff Atwood. I don’t consider it a crutch. I write my queries to the best of my ability and then use the Tuning Tool. Often there is no improvement to be had, but sometimes the program will point out something I missed and it is a learning experience for me.

The value of a tool is in how you use it. Anybody who’s read Coding Horror knows that he is definitely in favor of developers having all the necessary tools to perform optimally.

After all, he wouldn’t advocate his guys program in Notepad, just because it’s techically possible. Using the crutchless idea they wouldn’t be using TOAD at all. If they were really “hard core” they’d just use the built in SQL tools which we all know leave a lot to be desired.

I understand your point though Brent about not wanting to sound spammy, after all he is Jeff Atwood.

]]> By: Brent Ozar http://www.brentozar.com/archive/2008/10/sql-2008-upgrade-tuning-for-stackoverflowcom/comment-page-1/#comment-6062 Brent Ozar Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:57:04 +0000 http://www.brentozar.com/?p=1512#comment-6062 They're not, and I wanted to bring it up to 'em, but I didn't want to come in with a sales pitch. I wanted to be able to help them on a one-to-one basis, prove myself, and then go back and say, "Alright, to make your life easier, check out these tools. You won't have to hire a DBA." But man, I tell you, they're SERIOUS programmers, and they don't rely on crutches for anything. They’re not, and I wanted to bring it up to ‘em, but I didn’t want to come in with a sales pitch. I wanted to be able to help them on a one-to-one basis, prove myself, and then go back and say, “Alright, to make your life easier, check out these tools. You won’t have to hire a DBA.” But man, I tell you, they’re SERIOUS programmers, and they don’t rely on crutches for anything.

]]> By: David Stein http://www.brentozar.com/archive/2008/10/sql-2008-upgrade-tuning-for-stackoverflowcom/comment-page-1/#comment-6061 David Stein Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:51:39 +0000 http://www.brentozar.com/?p=1512#comment-6061 Brent, since they're using TOAD, my SQL Tool of choice btw, aren't they also using the SQL Tuning Tools in it to optimize their queries? It's one of my favorite pieces of the suite and has made me a much better query writer. That being said, I'm sure "pressure" is your middle name and you'll do fine with the infamous Jeff Atwood. Brent, since they’re using TOAD, my SQL Tool of choice btw, aren’t they also using the SQL Tuning Tools in it to optimize their queries?

It’s one of my favorite pieces of the suite and has made me a much better query writer.

That being said, I’m sure “pressure” is your middle name and you’ll do fine with the infamous Jeff Atwood.

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